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20:59:44 [Tagrel] Hi Ho Happy DVC chatters!
20:59:53 [BetsyAnn] Hey tagrel
21:00:37 [LimeGreenC] Hi Dave
21:00:37 [BetsyAnn] Love the message of the day! 
21:01:21 [BetsyAnn] chat froze on me
21:01:29 [LimeGreenC] I'm excited about sharing the news
21:01:50 [LimeGreenC] freezing on me too
21:02:00 [BetsyAnn] You still in here tagrel?
21:02:32 [Tagrel] Hmmm... either fashionably late, or my attempt to get
people to show up didn't work! 
21:02:57 [Tagrel] Exciting news: The server dies again!
21:02:57 [LimeGreenC] You're in competition with Big Brother
21:03:13 [BetsyAnn] lol
21:03:38 [Tagrel] big Brother is supposed to watch you! What a stupid
name!
21:03:58 [LimeGreenC] It's a great show! The ultimate in being nosey!!]
21:04:20 [LimeGreenC] It was hard to keep my hand out of it!
21:04:21 [BetsyAnn] ROFLOL -- never really got into that show
21:04:59 [Tagrel] I'm proud to say I watch NONE of those shows. 
21:05:42 [BetsyAnn] I loved murder in small town X -- get mystery show and I loved
21:05:51 [LimeGreenC] That's too bad Tagrel, you are missing out! And tomorrow night starts survior again
21:05:55 [LimeGreenC] Hi AliciaG
21:06:16 [Tagrel] LOL, I've seen them here or there, I just NEVER watch TV is all.
21:06:21 [Tagrel] Hi Alicia!
21:06:23 [BetsyAnn] Hey AliciaG! Welcome to DVC chat and the exciting site news
21:06:38 [AliciaG] Oh, you know I really love DVC and you guys because I'm having to tape Big Brother, lol. The final two are determined tonight
21:06:53 [BetsyAnn] The next large group of people come in about 7:15
21:07:11 [LimeGreenC] I'm multitasking alicia
21:07:30 [BetsyAnn] How about we make the announcement at 7:10
21:07:32 [Tagrel] So is THAT why my chats are empty! (except for my
wonderful moderators that feel quilty! )
21:07:38 [AliciaG] Don't get all uppity on the TV stuff, Tag
21:07:55 [Tagrel] I KNEW it couldn't be my terrible chat abilities!
21:07:59 [Tagrel]
21:08:06 [BetsyAnn] I don't do things out of guilt! LOL
21:08:07 [AliciaG] Sorry to say I had to miss last night due to the Cupid finale
21:08:12 [Tagrel] Nice Pictures LGC!
21:08:22 [LimeGreenC] Thankyou!
21:08:33 [LimeGreenC] Hi Joe
21:08:35 [BetsyAnn] Last was pretty good chat
21:08:36 [Tagrel] Hi Joe!
21:08:40 [AliciaG] That basket looked really nice. Thanks for putting it together
21:08:45 [BetsyAnn] Hey Joe -- Welcome to the DVC Chat
21:08:47 [AliciaG] Hi Joe
21:08:56 [BetsyAnn] Joe> how is the weather down south
21:09:00 [Tagrel] I need to have Will advertise on Passporter for this
chat too!
21:09:03 [LimeGreenC] I'm guilty of doing things out of guilt. And so are
you Betsyann!
21:09:03 [Joe] Hi there all!
21:09:18 [LimeGreenC] He did Tagrel, I asked him to this morning
21:09:35 [BetsyAnn] Me - Never LG --
21:09:51 [Tagrel] Cool. I just don't understand the lack of DVC
interest!
21:10:05 [AliciaG] Cheri, are you seriously considering DVC?
21:10:10 [Joe] Blowing like heck down here BA, cooling rapidly. And Cathy left today with the 8th graders for a camp out in Estes Park.
21:10:12 [Tagrel] Doesn't EVERYONE like to talk timeshares!??
21:10:39 [Tagrel] Where are you Joe?
21:10:46 [LimeGreenC] I have pleanty of interest, it is just a big investment! I go back and forth as does my DH
21:10:46 [Joe] I can't see why they wouldn't Tagrel....
21:10:48 [AliciaG] I will never describe DVC as a timeshare to anyone I know
21:10:50 [BetsyAnn] same here Joe -- dropped 15 degrees in about 30 minutes
21:10:58 [Tagrel] amping trip? Not in the path of the Hurricane I hope!
21:10:59 [AliciaG] They just don't get how it's different
21:11:12 [Joe] Tagrel, I'm just south of BetsyAnn in Colorado Springs.
21:11:27 [Tagrel] We did the first two years too LGC. It was a big step.
21:11:44 [AliciaG] If you buy, do you want Sarasota Springs, or are you looking at resales?
21:11:45 [LimeGreenC] I think the only problem I'm really having, is the maintaince fee deal
21:12:01 [Tagrel] You guys should be safe from this storm for the most part then. Shouldn't you?
21:12:03 [Joe] No Tagrel, we're well clear of the hurricane.
21:12:18 [LimeGreenC] Alicia, we're probably looking at a resale of WLV
21:12:24 [LimeGreenC] or is it VWL?
21:12:34 [LimeGreenC] Wilderness lodge villas
21:12:37 [BetsyAnn] We - are clear of the hurricane -- we just have a big cold front blowing int!
21:12:38 [Tagrel] Good. Its supposed to come right through downstate NY... We'll see...
21:12:38 [AliciaG] VWL
21:12:49 [Tagrel] VWL
21:13:10 [Joe] I heard it's snowing in Wyoming
21:13:11 [Tagrel] But I see it both ways quite often. We love VWL, but HAD to own at BCV too.
21:13:14 [LimeGreenC] yeah, that one
21:13:35 [Tagrel] Ack.... No 'S' word in here!!!!! CENSOR!!!!
21:13:46 [AliciaG] I am so excited about trying out HH. It will be a huge luxury to have a two bedroom for the 5 of us
21:14:16 [Joe] Geez Tagrel, the weatherguessers say we may get some tonight....
21:14:19 [Tagrel] You will LOVE it Alicia! Have you stayed in a one or two bedroom before?
21:14:28 [BetsyAnn] the S stuff only stays around here for a few days then melts off -- the only way to do snow! LOL
21:14:38 [AliciaG] nope, just the studios at BCV and BWV
21:14:44 [LimeGreenC] You'll have to take lots of pictures Alicia, we might want to try it next summer, but if it's not close to the beach, i don't know
21:14:44 [Tagrel] I prefer the Hurricane leftovers... 
21:15:08 [AliciaG] We had 5 of us in the studio in May. nobody get in an
uproar...one was under 3
21:15:10 [Joe] Yes Alicia, the 2BRs are really a luxury. I really love them.
21:15:12 [Tagrel] After staying in a one bedroom we are ruined for all others. The kids are SO spoiled now.
21:15:48 [Tagrel] LOL - the DREADED 5 in a unit debate. Shiver!!!!
21:16:16 [AliciaG] Yea, I try to avoid that one at all costs, lol
21:16:24 [Tagrel] Those 3 sink areas and two bathrooms will be nice!
21:16:33 [BetsyAnn] It is always the # of bathrooms for us -- not the bedrooms
21:16:42 [LimeGreenC] So where do the kids sleep in a 1 bedroom? Is there a bed in the den or something?
21:16:49 [Joe] That was what did us in Tagrel, staying in an OKW 1BR. Nothing else smaller will do now (unless we happen to have a ressie at the Poly :-) )
21:16:59 [Tagrel] The couch in the living room is a pullout
21:17:22 [AliciaG] Cheri, I've never been to the beach and not stayed ocean front. I'll let you know how we like the change. DHHIR, looks so relaxing, and we plan on renting the bikes to ride to the beach house. It will be a change for us though
21:17:29 [Tagrel] We stayed at the GF last Christmas and could not WAIT to get back to a DVC one bedroom.
21:17:37 [LimeGreenC] and is it comfortable? and do you feel safe with the kids closest to the outside door?
21:17:52 [Joe] We are basically staying in a GV when we go in October. Have a 2BR and a studio reserved.
21:18:02 [Tagrel] And after staying at Vero, I see what the OKWers mean about large units. That place was HUGE.
21:18:19 [AliciaG] Oh, that'll be nice, Joe
21:18:52 [Tagrel] Our girls never complain about it. Its an adventure to
sleep on the pullout for them!
21:18:57 [AliciaG] which resort will you be at, Joe?
21:19:19 [Joe] Have to see how much I can schmooze the room assignor at the BWV. Going to send them a note to try and get the rooms as close together as possible.
21:19:24 [Tagrel] I lock all the sliding doors and entrance door with the security bolts. They never wander off.
21:19:28 [AliciaG] My kids beg to sleep on our pullout at home on the weekends. They were fine on the one at BCV.
21:19:34 [Tagrel] Sounds great Joe!
21:19:36 [LimeGreenC] our only problem is Naomi wants to sleep with me and Ethan with his Daddy, so that would present a problem
21:19:59 [LimeGreenC] only on vacation and during bad dreams do they sleep with us
21:20:32 [AliciaG] That would be a problem. That king size bed is mine!
21:20:59 [BetsyAnn] sounds like you need a king size bed, G|LG
21:21:03 [Joe] Well, LGC, the bed in the living room is comfortable. At least that is what Kasey tells us.
21:21:07 [Tagrel] We have that rule Cheri. But the master bedroom has a kingsize bed which is nice. With a boy and girl, someone would probably need an air mattress eventually.
21:21:48 [LimeGreenC] I'll let Ken try it out, I'll be in the master bedroom. LOL
21:23:23 [Tagrel] the girls love sleeping in the living room. They turn on the TV to the Disney Stories, and watch them before falling asleep.
21:23:31 [LimeGreenC] do they allow air mattresses?
21:24:34 [Tagrel] Uh-Oh... Chat problems again... Well - slow server problems!
21:24:34 [Joe] With only having a girl, we can get away with the 1BR. At least until she puts her foot down about having her own room at WDW too!
21:25:12 [Tagrel] LOL, my could stomp all they want, and they are still
sleeping on the pullout! forever! (or staying home...)
21:26:18 [BetsyAnn] having major problems with chat room
21:26:58 [Joe] Me too BetsyAnn, finally got back in
21:27:29 [Joe] Ahh Tagrel, but the princess is very spoiled.
21:27:34 [Tagrel] Stupid server!
21:27:35 [BetsyAnn] ok - server really slow
21:27:51 [Joe] Seems to be better now.
21:28:06 [Tagrel] Mine are spoiled too, but I get ornery when they push it!
21:28:07 [BetsyAnn] now I can "talk"
21:28:19 [Tagrel] Maybe they did a reboot!
21:28:20 [Joe] It flat locked me down.
21:28:34 [LimeGreenC] am I here now?
21:28:50 [Joe] I see you LGC
21:28:57 [Tagrel] Whereever you go, that's where you are, LGC!
21:29:08 [Tagrel] Hi Brer!
21:29:19 [Joe] Hey there Brer!
21:29:19 [Brer] almost forgot, hi guys !
21:29:21 [BetsyAnn] Welcome Brer to the DVC chat
21:29:25 [Tagrel] We lost Alicia too! Bet she snuck off to watch Big
Brother!
21:29:30 [LimeGreenC] Hi Brer
21:29:39 [BetsyAnn] LOL
21:29:44 [Brer] listening to spaceship earth on live 365
21:29:48 [LimeGreenC] I sometimes try to get away from me though!
21:29:50 [Joe] LOL Tagrel
21:29:51 [Tagrel] So, do you have any other questions Cheri?
21:30:12 [Tagrel] And yes, People bring air mattresses all the time. But they won't supply bedding.
21:30:20 [Tagrel] Almost forgot that Cheri!
21:30:43 [LimeGreenC] I'm still not sure that with maintaince fees, it is worth the money in the long run
21:31:44 [Tagrel] I love Live 365 Brer
21:31:47 [LimeGreenC] and how long is it before you really "break even"
21:31:53 [Brer] those fees are an aggravation ,but the rooms are great with fixed cost
21:31:57 [BetsyAnn] Long run - how long does it take to see a savings over regular stays on site
21:32:02 [BetsyAnn] LOL
21:32:42 [Brer] if you are staying at a del or even a moderate and you are going to Dis or the beach every or even every other yr...I think it works out even on a ledger sheet
21:33:10 [Brer] we went last yr for about 2 weeks and stayed at BCV and OKW , off season of course
21:33:21 [Tagrel] DVC isn't cheap. Its pre-paying. We like the deluxe resorts, and where we used to stay 5 days, we now stay at least 10 or longer
21:33:31 [Brer] for a get in cost of 10,500
21:33:41 [Tagrel] I'm on track to have it pay for itself in 7 - 9 years.
21:34:10 [BetsyAnn] That is what I was thinking - about 10 years give or take
21:34:13 [LimeGreenC] here is my other thing, like this year, we will have gone a total of 2 trips and i'm not sure we can afford that many points
21:34:18 [Tagrel] actually, I think the entrance cost is > 13,000 now with the point cost increases.
21:35:16 [LimeGreenC] and if I buy points and still have to stay in a resort, I'm just not sure it is the best deal
21:35:31 [LimeGreenC] I've crunched numbers and I make it work, then the next day, I'm not so sure
21:35:44 [Tagrel] You don't HAVE to use points. We will stay in other hotels on arrival day or on weekends. Love spending the weekend in a Universal Hotel.
21:35:45 [LimeGreenC] maybe hubby and i need a "business trip" to think about it more
21:36:08 [BetsyAnn] that's the way to think - LG -lol
21:36:22 [LimeGreenC] That is a thought Tagrel
21:36:24 [Brer] LGC , I looked atthis way, being a business major :
21:36:44 [Tagrel] Our trips to WDW were never vacations until we joined DVC. We just love it now. The comfort of speading out in a larger unit makes all the difference.
21:36:47 [Brer] could I rent the points out and make it pay for itself , even IF I never went ?
21:37:03 [Tagrel] The points stretch much farther then.
21:37:04 [Brer] and the answer was YES
21:37:22 [LimeGreenC] Brer, that is a good point
21:37:24 [Tagrel] (when you don't pay for weekend points)
21:37:46 [LimeGreenC] This is true Tagrel
21:38:06 [Brer] I OWN A measly 155 pts, points will bring about 9 per , sometimes 10, for the sake of simplicity 155x10 = 1550 per yr revenue
21:38:10 [LimeGreenC] I'm still thinking a 'business trip" only this time when babysitters dont' fall through
21:38:32 [Brer] 10 yers the revenue will pay for the DVC
21:38:50 [Brer] Even after interest
21:39:06 [Brer] HMMMMMMM, maybe I JUST talked myslef into more points
21:39:21 [Tagrel] This year was great! Used points at VWL, then weekend at Vero (paid cash and got member discount of 30% off (I think it was 30%), and back to BCV for 6 more nights. Nice! Add up the room cost along of a 1 bedroom all that time and it was a few grand!
21:39:22 [BetsyAnn] lol Brer!
21:39:37 [LimeGreenC] I need to crunch more numbers keeping that in mind Brer
21:40:11 [Brer] it's a zippe do dah tip of the day !!!
21:40:18 [Joe] Dang Brer, with that kind of thinking I may have to add on! Wonder if Cathy will buy into that logic path?
21:40:51 [Brer] tell her your business advisor told you it was "sound thinking": LOL
21:40:57 [Tagrel] Cheri - also keep in mind that the resort costs go up each year - even the discounted rates. And you pay 11 - 12% tax on top of that. DVC only increases by the cost of maintenance - along the lines of inflation. And no tax.
21:41:06 [LimeGreenC] Oh I can't wait to hear "itsa zippy de do dah tip of the day" again. I missed that this summer!
21:41:10 [Joe] Bet I can sell her on anything delux after she gets back from this camping trip.....LOL
21:41:23 [Brer] the taxes ,,,yes,,,, no more sales tax with DVC
21:41:24 [Tagrel] 30 years ago the Poly was about 40 or 50 bucks a night!
21:41:41 [Brer] AND NOW 250
21:41:42 [LimeGreenC] This is true too Tagrel, but doesn't the maintaince fees also go up?
21:41:47 [BetsyAnn] LOL Joe - I was thinking the same thing -- after camping - you may have a great shot!
21:41:59 [Brer] THE TIP OF THE DAY WAS JUST ON LIVE 365
21:42:01 [Tagrel] LOL Brer! You should SELL DVC!
21:42:16 [Brer] ss ,thanks
21:42:26 [Joe] I watched that earlier this week LGC, great film.
21:42:33 [Tagrel] Yes, maintenance goes up with inflation - but actual cost. They can't raise it on a whim.
21:42:42 [LimeGreenC] I can't listen to Live 365, chat with you fine people, and watch Big Brother, that's just too much!
21:42:54 [Brer] a salesman will sell himself...if you give him all the facts
21:43:03 [Tagrel] Just like you pay for maintenance on your home, you OWN DVC.. So the owners have to pay maintenance costs.
21:43:12 [Brer] DVC ad on live 365 now
21:43:52 [Brer] I have rented points out 2x...it worked great
21:43:57 [Tagrel] LOL - good timing Brer! Is it a reseller or disney themselves?
21:44:12 [LimeGreenC] Joe, the Fort Wilderness chat a couple of weeks back had me convinced to camp at Disney LOL
21:44:22 [Tagrel] Renting is always a good option if you have to.
21:44:24 [Brer] Disney
21:44:28 [LimeGreenC] * LimeGreenC who is apparently easily swayed
21:44:48 [Brer] during the D.... i had a few points I could afford to let go
21:45:03 [BetsyAnn] too humid to camp in anything less than an
airconditioned tent at WDW!
21:45:17 [Joe] If every campground was like those at Ft Wilderness LGC, I would go camping all the time. We even used to camp in the RV park at Disneyland, it was one of the best ones.
21:45:17 [LimeGreenC] What do you like the most about your home resorts?
21:45:23 [Brer] she got the goldmine...but I got Mickey
21:45:27 [Tagrel] Can't IMAGINE camping in WDW in the summer. YUCK!
21:45:31 [Brer] LOCATION !!
21:45:44 [Tagrel] My kids aren't the only spoled ones in THIS family!
21:45:50 [BetsyAnn] We did that too - Joe!
21:46:00 [LimeGreenC] Joe, my hubby who loves to camp, shot me down on camping at Disney. No sleepin on the ground after a day in the parks he said. Now if we had a camper, that would be different
21:46:46 [Joe] I can't disagree with him, I would want a nice soft bed too.
21:47:35 [Brer] what about resales ? that might be a good way to go, if financing is an option
21:47:51 [Tagrel] A nice camper yes, but no way in a tent. Between the heat and the rain I wouldn't make it!
21:47:57 [Joe] Unfortunatley BA, the RV park is gone. They put up a parking lot.....
21:48:02 [LimeGreenC] brb
21:48:36 [BetsyAnn] I know -- we saw the 48 states from campers as I was growing up -- loved it
21:48:40 [Joe] Agree Tagrel, I would have to have an RV to do the camping thing there. Just too much going on with the weather.
21:49:04 [Tagrel] So, anyone going to buy at SSR?
21:49:34 [Joe] We sold ours 2 years ago BA, just couldn't get out enough with Kasey's schedule. Maybe after she gets off to school.
21:49:36 [Brer] awwaiting the Monorail resort here
or maybe more at BWV
21:50:12 [Tagrel] I'd love to add more points at BCV, but if they DID
add a monorail resort, I'd be all over that!
21:50:32 [BetsyAnn] Parents sold ours right after I learned to drive -- wonder if that was the deciding factor --LOL
21:50:39 [Joe] Not planning on it Tagrel, we already own at OKW so have an away from the parks home. May wait and see what they do with the Contemporary thing.
21:50:56 [Brer] as in all resort, location sells
21:51:21 [Tagrel] We might like to try SSR sometime, but I don't have the bug to buy there like I did at BCV.
21:51:27 [Joe] Of course Cathy (DW) really does like being at the BWV for the location. That could be a possibility.
21:51:31 [LimeGreenC] I need to get running guys and gal, great chat, Thanks!
21:51:34 [Tagrel] True Brer
21:51:46 [Brer] see ya LGC
21:51:52 [Tagrel] We have to try BWV too. Someday!
21:51:53 [Joe] Nite LGC, take care
21:51:58 [BetsyAnn] Good night LGCheri!
21:52:03 [LimeGreenC] nite!
21:52:04 [Brer] WE NEED A little red in here
21:52:08 [Tagrel] Night LGC. We'll sell you on DVC sometime!
21:52:23 [Joe] Hey Tagrel, what was the big announcement?
21:52:28 [Tagrel] And my Exciting site news I promised...
21:52:35 [Brer] simple mathematical problem
21:52:37 [Tagrel] LOL, jinx Joe!
21:52:45 [Brer] please do tell
21:52:46 [BetsyAnn] LOL
21:52:47 [Joe] (Drum roll)
21:53:02 [Joe] lol Tag
21:53:43 [Tagrel] The forum is getting an upgrade very soon. All new features including a gallery area for picuture uploads.,
21:54:06 [Brer] that is GREAT
21:54:15 [Tagrel] Its more of a content management system to support lots of tools
21:54:21 [BetsyAnn] And it is really cool, guys!
21:54:27 [Joe] Hey, that sounds great Tagrel. Can't thank you enough for hosting this huge effort.
21:54:39 [Tagrel] My moderators have been my guinea pigs this week.
21:55:25 [Tagrel] So, if the site is down for a few hours this weekend,
its either the hurricane or an upgrade!
21:55:26 [Brer] i wish we could get a little more participation...there are some really fine people that haven't joined us yet
21:55:40 [Brer] hope it's nothe weather
21:55:57 [Tagrel] It does go in waves Brer. Quiet one week, but this week picked up a bit.
21:56:04 [Joe] Still hosting my room over there, but not a lot of traffic. Seeing more here Brer
21:56:24 [Tagrel] If its the upgrade, I'll display a message that it is in progress...
21:56:48 [BetsyAnn] People come and go - it is just the way of the net!
21:56:54 [Joe] That will be great Tagrel, hope all goes well.
21:56:59 [Brer] there are a few that just completely dropped out
21:57:32 [Tagrel] The test area seems to be working OK. I have to save the forum and users databases and reload them into the new site. That is the time consuming part.
21:57:49 [BetsyAnn] They may come back in time - or when a new Disney trip is up coming
21:58:09 [Brer] i always get really charged up a few months before my trips, but after , a big let down
21:58:10 [Tagrel] Many people have moved on to the larger more active sites. I like having a small site.
21:58:32 [Tagrel] more friendly and intimate that way. Where everybody
knows your name!
21:58:57 [Brer] Splash Mtn is on now !
21:59:05 [BetsyAnn] You created a great place for us to play!
21:59:10 [Tagrel] I move right into planning the next trip. that 11
month booking window you know!
21:59:15 [Brer] hiya twirler!
21:59:18 [BetsyAnn] Hey twilergirl!
21:59:22 [Tagrel] Hi TwirlerGirl!
21:59:26 [TwirlerGir] Hey!
21:59:30 [Joe] That's why I really like your site Tagrel, it's small enough for all of us to get to know each other.
21:59:43 [Joe] Hey there TwirlerGirl!
21:59:57 [Tagrel] DIS is great for getting info, but I never feel at 'home' there. Too big.
22:00:21 [Tagrel] I just like to keep enough interest to keep it moving
a bit!
22:00:23 [Brer] that is the biggest problem for me with DVC ...i am not a long range planner
22:00:31 [TwirlerGir] Hi, everybody!
22:00:54 [Joe] But they do cover a lot of ground in a day Tagrel.
22:01:11 [Brer] we have a trip tenatively planned for this Jan, late Jan, we a re going to take my grandmother, she's nver been
22:01:27 [Tagrel] I love planning ahead, but it drives DW crazy when I start asking her to make decisions about the next trip when we just got back!
22:01:34 [BetsyAnn] TwirlerGir> just finishing a DVC chat and Tagrel announced a new forum coming soon!
22:01:42 [Tagrel] How is it going tonight TwirlerGirl?
22:01:48 [Joe] Ok folks, time for me to scoot. Need to check on Kasey's homework and make sure it is acceptable. Take care all and will see you around the rooms.'
22:02:05 [Brer] night Joe!
22:02:10 [Tagrel] Night Joe! Thanks for stopping by!
22:02:18 [BetsyAnn] Good night Joe -
22:03:10 [TwirlerGir] Great, just finished coaching my team. Now trying to catch up with storm news and the new forum here.
22:03:33 [Tagrel] Yes, we'll be getting a forum upgrade with some new features, and quite a new layout for the forum area. Lots of new tools including a Gallery area where members can share pictures.
22:06:14 [BetsyAnn] Going to head out
22:06:33 [Brer] night BA
22:06:47 [BetsyAnn] Thanks everyone for coming, thanks Tagrel for hosting and everyone have a good night and a great tomorrow!
22:06:59 [Tagrel] night BA - thanks!
22:07:02 [Brer] I need to go hook a computer back up, night friends , Happy Trails !
22:07:12 [Tagrel] I'm going to have to run myself!
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