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21:04:00 [BetsyAnn] DVC= Disney vacation club, Paul
21:04:04 [Tagrel] 
21:04:11 [LimeGreenC] I know how to make Tagrel growl 
21:04:15 [BetsyAnn] lol
21:04:41 [LimeGreenC] I'm waiting
21:04:42 [Tagrel] Oops, I didn't even THINK that DVC would need to be defined...
21:04:52 [Tagrel] Never assume!
21:04:59 [BetsyAnn] get out of that color -- it makes my screen go crazy
21:05:06 [LimeGreenC] come on, growl one more time
21:05:08 [Tagrel] Where did LGC go. Too bad she had to leave...
21:05:16 [Joe] 
21:05:20 [PaulF] LOL We've owned at the BW since 98. I meant that I never even knew there was a DVC chat tonight.
21:05:24 [LimeGreenC] HEY
21:05:55 [BetsyAnn] I was wondering that Paul -- because I was pretty sure I remembed that about you -- but my memory is really bad --
21:05:57 [Tagrel] Once a month. Third weds.
21:06:20 [LimeGreenC] Hi DisneyPam
21:06:24 [BetsyAnn] Welcome DisneyPam
21:06:24 [Tagrel] Hi Pam!
21:06:33 [DisneyPam] hullo kids! 
21:06:34 [LimeGreenC] I have a question about the tour at DVC
21:06:38 [PaulF] Got our ressies already for December. Gonna be ther for Mousefest. 
21:06:42 [Joe] Pammy!!!
21:07:05 [BetsyAnn] Cool PaulF
21:07:11 [DisneyPam] Joe!!!! LOL
21:07:12 [BetsyAnn] When you going
21:08:31 [LimeGreenC] The girl I talked to on the phone said that if we took the tour, we only had a couple of weeks to decide and then the "special offer" would not be offered and their would be no more offers, is that true?
21:08:32 [Tagrel] We are still on the waitlist for one more day in the WL. Just found out that they didn't put me ON the waitlist when I asked them too.
21:08:42 [Joe] Ask away LGC.
21:09:00 [PaulF] Dec 6 - 16. Gonna miss the huge gathering at Epcot, but already have a few mini meets planned with some folks.
21:09:25 [BetsyAnn] Ok aske
21:09:49 [Tagrel] I think that chat is acting up tonight
21:10:00 [Tagrel] wb lgc, did you lock up too?
21:10:02 [PaulF] LGC, I'm not sure about that. As far as I knew the offer was good as long as the promotion was running.
21:10:06 [LimeGreenC] Geesh! I'm having trouble with the chat
21:10:09 [DisneyPam] That stinks, Tag. 
21:10:16 [BetsyAnn] Screen froze
21:10:18 [LimeGreenC] Yes
21:10:23 [BetsyAnn] Welcome Jutta
21:10:35 [LimeGreenC] Hi Jutta
21:10:37 [DisneyPam] Jutta!!! Great to see you...but you should be sleeping at this hour!
21:10:40 [Jutta] Good evening all!
21:10:42 [Joe] I did for a minute too Tagrel, then it cleared.
21:10:48 [PaulF] Hiya Jutta! Long time no see!!
21:10:51 [Tagrel] I'm still trying to get a WL studio for 12/5. we plan to be there the 5th - the 8th.
21:10:56 [Tagrel] Hi Jutta
21:11:49 [BetsyAnn] Ok
21:11:54 [Jutta] I just got up Pammy.....LOL
21:11:59 [BetsyAnn] That would be great Tagrel
21:12:05 [DisneyPam] What day of the week is that, Tagrel?
21:12:13 [Tagrel] maybe the server is slow tonight.
21:12:16 [DisneyPam] Jutta - what time is it?
21:12:17 [PaulF] Tagrel, you going to try to make the huge gathering at Epcot? Sounhds kind oif intimidating almost. LOL
21:12:33 [Jutta] 3 am here
21:12:51 [LimeGreenC] If you don't get your room, will you still go Tagrel? or get on the wait list for another
21:12:58 [BetsyAnn] Maybe we overheated the chat room - last night! lol
21:13:03 [Tagrel] I haven't looked into Mousefest too much. There is a good chance we'll have to cancel, and I don't wanna know what I'm going to miss!
21:13:06 [DisneyPam] You're crazy, woman!!! But we love you.
21:13:24 [LimeGreenC] ROFLOL Betsyann
21:13:35 [BetsyAnn] Wow Jutta - that is early!
21:13:52 [Tagrel] Its a Friday night. I was surprised it wasn't open!
21:14:12 [Tagrel] Up early or late Jutta?
21:14:32 [LimeGreenC] can you be put on the wait list for more than one place?
21:14:42 [BetsyAnn] So we got any great DVC advice or questions?
21:14:43 [Jutta] early I guess Tagrel
21:14:45 [PaulF] VWL is so small, I'm surprised everything doesn't lock up immediately att eh 11 month window.
21:14:50 [Tagrel] yes you can have several waitlists.
21:15:16 [Tagrel] thanks for the topic direction BetsyAnn!
21:15:50 [Tagrel] I've always had good luck with the weekends after 7 months - its just really busy that week!
21:15:53 [BetsyAnn] your welcome! ;0
21:15:55 [Joe] Did you try OKW Tagrel, they always seem to have room.
21:15:58 [BetsyAnn]
21:16:06 [DisneyPam] I have to admit, I've never had a problem getting the resort and dates I want.
21:16:08 [Jutta] so who´s going to a DVC resort next?
21:16:10 [Tagrel] I didn't think about going down early until later.
21:16:20 [LimeGreenC] I really want to tour the DVC in July, but I don't think we'll be ready to buy until next spring, so if it is true they don't ever give you any more promotions, then I'll have to wait
21:16:21 [Tagrel] We want to be at WL.
21:16:45 [Tagrel] 24 days til VWL, Vero and BCV!!!
21:17:14 [BetsyAnn] Vero Beach sounds very cool to me!
21:17:25 [PaulF] LGC, I can't believe that what that guide told you is true. She must have been confused. You should maybe try talking to another DVC guide and see if you get the same answer.
21:17:26 [Tagrel] the only promotion I remember was magical beginnings, and I didn't think that was a deal at all.
21:17:27 [Jutta] whow.......thats not long!
21:17:27 [DisneyPam] Thats cool, Tagrel. I don't have anything specific planned at this point. Not for overnight anyway.
21:17:37 [LimeGreenC] I want to try Vero Beach or Hilton Head next summer
21:17:50 [Tagrel] Kelli Jo is a great guide. I really like her.
21:17:55 [Jutta] ´have you been to Vero before Tagrel?
21:18:11 [Tagrel] I know! Only a little over 3 weeks.
21:18:24 [Tagrel] Nope, this will be first time at Vero. Dw is really excited.
21:18:25 [Joe] We're not heading down until October
21:18:38 [LimeGreenC] Seems like the deal they gave me, was $1000 credit towards the downpayment
21:18:56 [PaulF] Magical Beginnings worked for us because we weren't going to be going in that first year anyway. It helped using htat first year's points to pay off the bill.
21:19:06 [Tagrel] Did they take the first years points?
21:19:22 [PaulF] But we had no illusions about it being anything Disney was 'giving' us. lol
21:19:44 [Tagrel] They were only offering $5 a point for Magical Beginnings when we bought
21:19:52 [PaulF] Yeah, they gave us $10 per, I think it was.
21:19:59 [LimeGreenC] PaulF, I'm going to be giving them a call in the next week or so
21:20:01 [Tagrel] I could SELL them for $10 a point, so I didn't see the 'bargain'.
21:20:07 [DisneyPam] I don't even remember what my MB was. I think it was $5 or $10.
21:20:19 [Tagrel] If they gave $10, that would be cool.
21:20:44 [DisneyPam] I think it must have been $10/point for 50% of the first year's points.
21:20:51 [Tagrel] Where do you want to own LGC? Resale is a good way to save money.
21:20:54 [BetsyAnn] is $10 the going rate for buying points
21:21:09 [PaulF] Mayra Ramirez was our guide. She was very sweet and VERY low pressure. It was a pleasure dealing with her.
21:21:22 [Tagrel] It varies BetsyAnn, but that is the most accepted number.
21:21:24 [Jutta] When we bought our last points they offered 10$ at Vero, 5$ at BCV for Magical beginnings
21:21:43 [Tagrel] Some sell them a tiny bit higher (if they can) Some sell them lower when they are in danger of losing them.
21:21:49 [Joe] When we bought, it was $10 at OKW
21:21:49 [BetsyAnn] Good to know - thanks
21:21:54 [LimeGreenC] We want to own at VWL
21:22:23 [LimeGreenC] And the girl told me VWL is sold out and BCV would be in the next few months
21:22:28 [Tagrel] I'm not sure, but VWL is sold out or very close.
21:22:30 [LimeGreenC] Hi snikerdoo
21:22:34 [Jutta] then you have to buy a resale, I think VWL is sold out
21:22:37 [BetsyAnn] Welcome Snickerdoo to the Disney Vacation Club chat
21:22:51 [Tagrel] You could ask Shontell to call you if VWL points come up for resale
21:22:51 [snickerdoo] Hi everyone!
21:22:59 [DisneyPam] LGC - how many points do you want?
21:23:00 [Tagrel] Hi Linda!
21:23:06 [Jutta] Hi Snickerdoo!
21:23:16 [PaulF] Well folks, I gotta bail. See y'all later!
21:23:17 [LimeGreenC] Do you guys deduct this as a second home on your income taxes?
21:23:19 [snickerdoo] Pammy, I am soooo sory I did not call you on Saturday!
21:23:23 [Joe] Don't know if they are offereing WLV any more LGC, you may have to go through the resale market.
21:23:29 [snickerdoo] Hi Dave!
21:23:32 [Jutta] By Paul! Take care!
21:23:36 [Joe] Pammy, where are you looking to buy now?
21:23:37 [Tagrel] How many points do you want LGC?
21:23:44 [Tagrel] bye paul
21:23:51 [LimeGreenC] I would love to have 200 points, but will probably only do 150
21:23:52 [BetsyAnn] good night paul
21:23:55 [DisneyPam] Thats okay, Linda. I ended up at Epcot and met up with some friends there.
21:24:00 [Joe] Nite Paul, take care.
21:24:08 [LimeGreenC] Bye Paul
21:24:17 [snickerdoo] Did you?
21:24:31 [snickerdoo] Was M:S open while you wee there?
21:25:15 [Tagrel] To figure out the number of point you need, use the point charts to count up the cost when you would like to go.
21:25:19 [DisneyPam] no it wasn't...
21:25:50 [snickerdoo] Pammy, I will send you an email in a bit...
21:25:58 [BetsyAnn] snickerdoo> Do you own at DVC?
21:26:16 [Tagrel] 150 will give you a 1 bedroom, S - Th in the Summer at VWL or BCV.
21:26:28 [Tagrel] We do that, then head out for the weekend.
21:26:39 [snickerdoo] We used to. Then when we moved to Orlando in April of 96, we sold
21:27:14 [BetsyAnn] Oh -- sooo coool to live there, snickerdoo
21:27:27 [Tagrel] Hi JeanC!
21:27:30 [Jutta] Hi Jean!
21:27:36 [Joe] Yes snickerdoo, I'm jealous.
21:27:39 [LimeGreenC] Hi JeanC
21:27:44 [Joe] Hi there Jean!
21:27:46 [BetsyAnn] Welcome Jean to DVC chat
21:28:12 [DisneyPam] Its weird...now that I live in Orlando, I want more points...mainly b/c I tend to use Fri and Sat nights more.
21:28:32 [JeanC] Hi everyone. Sorry I'm late. Not really sure how to "chat" so I'll probably lurk for a while.
21:28:37 [Tagrel] When you take the tour, ask about a dinner certificate LGC. AlicaG said that she got them for her family.
21:28:37 [snickerdoo] I lived there full time through this Feb. Now I find myself commuting back and forth FROM fl TO nEW yORK EVERY FEW WEEKS
21:28:43 [snickerdoo] sorry
21:29:14 [Tagrel] Looks like you are doing fine Jean!
21:29:21 [snickerdoo] really pammy?
21:29:24 [Tagrel] that is one heck of a commute!
21:29:25 [LimeGreenC] Did you all finace thru Disney or do your own finacing?
21:29:25 [BetsyAnn] You join you as you feel comfortable -- ask if you don't understand something and you will be a pro in no time!
21:29:48 [BetsyAnn] Very interesting DisneyPam
21:29:49 [LimeGreenC] I will Tagrel, I'm thinking we'll probably go ahead and tour
21:30:11 [Tagrel] We financed through Disney, then I paid it off with a Home Equity Loan at a much lower rate.
21:30:20 [Joe] And I thought the folks that commute from here to Boulder had a long commute!
21:30:42 [BetsyAnn] lol Joe!
21:30:43 [DisneyPam] Its nice to just do a weekend and not have to drive back and forth. Esp. if I want to go out to PI or JellyRolls and don't want to drive.
21:30:50 [JeanC] We financed thru Disney -- easier that way altho pretty expensive, but all 3 resorts are paid off now.
21:30:52 [snickerdoo] Did y'all join when Disney was giving away the free hopper passes to the parks thru 1999?
21:31:04 [Joe] I think that is interesting too Pam, do you do a lot of entertaining of folks there?
21:31:29 [Tagrel] I'll bet if the only thing that was stopping you from buying later was any promotion, that they would still do it. They love to make a sale!
21:31:35 [Jutta] we used to avoid weekends in the first years or paied cash for them, but getting "older" we need it more comfortable .... so bought more points and are staying.....LOL
21:31:46 [JeanC] We joined in 1994 and had the free passes for 6 years -- sure miss them.
21:31:51 [Tagrel] And you could always sell that first years points yourself.
21:31:53 [DisneyPam] My college roomie's family joined back in the very beginning...they loved the passes.
21:31:54 [LimeGreenC] I guess the interest rates are something to look at
21:31:56 [BetsyAnn] I think some one was talking abou that snickerdoo- one time -- what was the reason they gave for stopping
21:32:15 [Tagrel] We banked them and are using the extra for a cruise next year
21:32:36 [Jutta] we joined in 1993 .... long years of free passes :-)
21:32:45 [BetsyAnn] So is it a good thing to use the points for cruise or even DL?
21:32:53 [DisneyPam] Joe - I've used my points for a visit for my aunt (4 nts at VWL Studio), a visit for my sister (a week at BWV 1BR, 1 nt cash) and nights here and there with friends.
21:33:05 [JeanC] Are you doing the whole cruise on points, Tagrel, or just part of it?
21:33:09 [Tagrel] Actually we used Disney financing, paid it off with a credit card for the points, then paid off the card with the home equity loan. MEGA points on CC.
21:33:12 [snickerdoo] they really didnt give any reason for stopping. I guess it was just a promotion til it caught on. We bought in July 1992
21:33:31 [Tagrel] Actually, I'm selling the points to pay for the cruise. Point costs seem too high to me.
21:33:37 [LimeGreenC] I bet Tagrel!
21:33:45 [Joe] That makes sense Pam, you do live in one of the most popular destinations in the world...
21:33:56 [Tagrel] for cruises that is. I like the cash discounts for booking early.
21:34:56 [LimeGreenC] The information packet they sent me, I've still not looked all the way thru
21:35:00 [Jutta] is it easy to rent points? we´ve never done it
21:35:02 [Joe] I'm glad to hear you did that Tagrel. I'm trying to get Cathy to add on that way. We can make mega points on the CC like you did..
21:35:03 [Tagrel] It depends on your point of view BetsyAnn. Some of the trades can seem high (points wise) but many people do use them.
21:35:07 [LimeGreenC] it's a really big decision and lots of number crunching
21:35:21 [JeanC] They are high, but the first time we went we went one on points and one for cash. 2nd time we did the 7 day E. Carribean for 129 points each in a verandah room Great special. I've been waiting for another one, but I don't thin we'll see it
21:35:33 [Tagrel] Use the Disney Card and get 1% back from them!
21:35:43 [DisneyPam] I love being able to have friends and family visit at DVC. A few days here and a few days at WDW.
21:35:49 [Tagrel] Very true LGC
21:36:13 [Tagrel] The DIS has a DVC Rent board that seems to work very well.
21:36:31 [JeanC] Does anyone know the current least number of points you can add on buying from Disney?
21:36:38 [DisneyPam] oh Tagrel...thats a good idea for an add on. LOL
21:36:41 [Tagrel] You could always try to rent points here as well. Just post in the DVC room.
21:36:53 [Jutta] I think 50 is the lowest add on
21:36:54 [DisneyPam] 25 Jean, at your home resort. I think.
21:37:01 [Tagrel] Add ons can be really low...
21:37:31 [Tagrel] You need certain # of points to finance through disney though...
21:37:35 [Tagrel] is it 50?
21:37:46 [BetsyAnn] And the minimum # of points to start with?
21:37:56 [Tagrel] And you have to buy at least 150 points on a new contract
21:38:00 [JeanC] I thought it was 50, but I thought someone posted somewhere than you could go as low as 30. 25 sounds even better. Adding on slowly, a little at a time.
21:38:06 [Tagrel] Read your mind BA!
21:38:17 [LimeGreenC] so is it better to buy more points to start with, or add on as you go?
21:38:23 [Jutta] 150 I think
21:38:26 [BetsyAnn] Yes, you did, tagrel!
21:38:38 [Tagrel] I thought the low was 25 also.
21:39:12 [DisneyPam] the minimum is different for an add on at your home resort vs. another resort.
21:39:13 [Jutta] I think you´re right, add on at the home resort is lower than 50 ......I
21:39:40 [Joe] LGC, we figured the number of points it would take to do a vacation trip when and where we wanted and bought that number of points to start with.
21:39:42 [Tagrel] Looked it up. 25 points for cash purchases. 50 points to finance.
21:39:59 [JeanC] Another question. Can you add on only at resorts where they are currently selling memberships?
21:40:03 [LimeGreenC] That makes sense Joe
21:40:10 [DisneyPam] LGC - I think it is better to get more to start with if you can. For me 150 was a lot b/c it was just me traveling from NC. A studio is fine. Now that I live here it is different.
21:40:20 [Tagrel] Not according to the book DisneyPam
21:40:47 [Tagrel] You ALWAYS want more points. Its compulsive!
21:40:51 [LimeGreenC] We would probably just do the studio so we could have more nights or trips
21:41:00 [DisneyPam] okay...maybe I was just hallucinating, Tagrel. LOL
21:41:06 [Jutta] if you can afford it start with the ammount you need......prices go up and up LGC
21:41:28 [Tagrel] NEVER stay in a one bedroom if you want to stay in a studio most of the time.
21:41:54 [LimeGreenC] Good points DisneyPam and Jutta and Tagrel
21:41:55 [Tagrel] We figured studio at first, and blew that. LOVE the 1 bedroom.
21:42:00 [Joe] We started with a studio too LGC, then we spent a week in a 1 Br, never a studio again!! That will truly spoil you.
21:42:05 [Jutta] lol Tagrel
21:42:20 [Joe] Ok, what Tag said.....
21:42:29 [DisneyPam] ROFL, Tagrel. I know what you mean.
21:42:32 [LimeGreenC] LOL Tagrel and Joe
21:42:37 [JeanC] I wonder if Disney will ever convert the OKW studios to one bed and one sofa bed. We sure would like that better.
21:42:54 [DisneyPam] The 1BR rocks but for just me, it doesn't make sense.
21:43:08 [Jutta] we always compare the time we can spend in a Studio to the time in a 1-BR.....and if we have enough time the Studio wins........LOL
21:43:16 [LimeGreenC] Believe it or not, my hubby (who is not as into Disneyas I am) suggested looking into DVC, so I really want to take the tour so it stays fresh on his mind
21:43:34 [BetsyAnn] Larger kitchen, more space, washer dryer all in 1 br and not in studio right?
21:43:46 [Joe] I don't know Pam, there is a certain level of decadance there....
21:43:53 [DisneyPam] Actually, I don't mind the OKW studios with 2 Queen beds.
21:43:55 [LimeGreenC] no washer and dryer in a studio?
21:43:58 [Jutta] right BA
21:44:05 [Tagrel] With kids the one bedroom makes it into a relaxing vacation.. And that kitchen and washer dryer is the best!
21:44:08 [Joe] BetsyAnn, that is correct
21:44:12 [DisneyPam] Joe - I'm still unemployed...I cannot even consider being decadent! LOL
21:44:21 [Tagrel] Nope, W/D just in the 1 bedroom units.
21:44:31 [Tagrel] (well, and 2 and 3 bedrooms)
21:44:33 [DisneyPam] No LGC, but free use of the ones in the resort.
21:44:46 [Joe] Dang Pam, we need to get you a job.
21:44:47 [Tagrel] There is a laundry room with free machines for Studio use
21:44:55 [LimeGreenC] Pam, you are doing such a good job on DVC in here, maybe you could be a guide or something
21:45:11 [JeanC] I think that no washer and dryer is the worst thing about staying in a studio. Can't wash towels every day.
21:45:19 [Tagrel] THAT would be a cool job Pam!
21:45:26 [LimeGreenC] It is much nicer to have a washer and dryer in your room though
21:45:31 [DisneyPam] I would love to do that, LGC. Maybe I should call my guide and see if they're hiring. I could be the person in the kiosk in the parks.
21:45:41 [Tagrel] If we stay in a studio, I'm going to pay for trash and towel each day.
21:45:46 [LimeGreenC] If you want daily housekeeping, how much is it?
21:45:55 [Joe] There you go Pam, a new career.
21:46:02 [Tagrel] You can bring fewer clothes. Its really nice.
21:46:07 [BetsyAnn] You would be great at that DPam and so many things too!
21:46:08 [Jutta] we all would come and see you Pam .......... that would be really cool!!
21:46:15 [LimeGreenC] Now you're talking Pam, and if you get it, I get a percentage for being the headhunter. LOL
21:46:15 [JeanC] Wow! That would be a neat job. I have often thought I would love to do that.
21:46:16 [Joe] LGC, it varies from unit to unit and what you want done.
21:46:28 [Tagrel] Depends on the unit size. And if you want full cleaning or just trash and towel.
21:46:42 [BetsyAnn] Are there vacum cleaners in the rooms?
21:46:47 [LimeGreenC] trash and towel
21:46:57 [LimeGreenC] studio
21:46:59 [Tagrel] With all your knowledge, that would be perfect Pam!
21:47:01 [LimeGreenC] ballpark figure
21:47:01 [Jutta] yes BA
21:47:04 [Joe] What's that BA????? LOL
21:47:07 [Tagrel] And then free park admission too!
21:47:17 [Tagrel] BetsyAnn = BA
21:47:30 [Tagrel] We are lazy typers!
21:47:37 [JeanC] You can get clean towels from the pool, however, even if you are not supposed to.
21:47:45 [BetsyAnn] LOL Tagrel!
21:47:57 [snickerdoo] I think Joe was referring to the vacuum Dave! LOL
21:48:00 [Tagrel] I think it is $10 a day for 4 towels, empty trash.
21:48:17 [BetsyAnn] Joe> I spill things all the time - such a mess - so would need something to clean up if no housekeeping
21:48:18 [Joe] LGC, Full service is about 25 for a studio, 35 for a 1 BR and so on.
21:48:21 [BetsyAnn] LOL
21:48:27 [LimeGreenC] $10? geesh, no thanks
21:49:01 [Tagrel] Just a towel package is $6 (4 towels, 4 washclothes, 4 hand towels)
21:49:04 [Joe] Oh, I understand BetsyAnn. Yes there are vaccuum cleaners in the 1Br and up.
21:49:28 [Joe] But I don't know if they work.....LOL
21:49:29 [LimeGreenC] me? do something i'm not supposed to? NEVER
21:49:32 [DisneyPam] Thats actually worth it, Tagrel if you have more than 2 people in a studio, IMO.
21:49:49 [BetsyAnn] ROFLOL, Joe
21:49:54 [LimeGreenC] you have to pay for a towel package everytime you vist?
21:50:11 [DisneyPam] LGC - only if you want an extra set.
21:50:23 [JeanC] We really don't want anyone to tidy our room every day, tho. And -- there are vaccum cleaners in the studios we have stayed in. Not sure about OKW, tho. BCV & BWV for sure.
21:50:32 [LimeGreenC] oh, I was gonna say....
21:50:49 [Joe] No LGC, they come with the room. But you only get housekeeping on days 4 and 7.
21:51:00 [DisneyPam] The units come with towels for the # of people that can legally occupy it. 1 bath, 1 hand and 1 wash cloth.
21:51:20 [Joe] On day 4 they do a trash and towel, on day 7 they do a full cleaning.
21:51:23 [DisneyPam] Thats per person
21:51:30 [LimeGreenC] I see, and what do they do on days 4 and 7?
21:51:47 [Tagrel] We like not having daily cleaning. But we do like clean towels. So $6 isn't too bad.
21:51:54 [JeanC] We usually get more towels than that. At least 2 per person.
21:51:55 [LimeGreenC] sorry, i see you answered allready
21:51:59 [Joe] This is kind of nice because you don't have to worry about when mousekeeping is going to be in the room all the time
21:52:33 [DisneyPam] If you have trash to take out before day 4, they have a trash & recycling room.
21:52:50 [Jutta] we throw the towels into a free washer every day when we´re at the pool ......
21:52:57 [Tagrel] Right. Just drop off the trash on the way out.
21:53:10 [Jutta] so clean towels every day with no extra cost
21:53:16 [DisneyPam] If you are staying in a 1BR, you can just put the towels in the wash every night.
21:53:21 [BetsyAnn] Are there magical dumsters some where?
21:53:29 [Jutta] right Pam
21:53:32 [Tagrel] I asked about extra towels when we bought and our guide said grab what you want from the pool area.
21:53:47 [Joe] What Pam said.
21:53:47 [JeanC] Sure wish they would get bigger wastebaskets. Only the kitchen ones are big enuf for us.
21:53:49 [Tagrel] Found out on DIS that grabbing towels from the pool area is HIGHLY frowned on!
21:53:56 [LimeGreenC] I need to go, lives to save tomrrow, thanks Tagrel, Betsyann and everybody!
21:54:02 [Tagrel] At least by other DVCers!
21:54:05 [snickerdoo] Well all I gotta run! Sorry I didn't have much to contribute! Pammy I hope to see you next weekend!
21:54:11 [BetsyAnn] Good night LGcheri
21:54:15 [Joe] I'm just glad they put a big one in the kitchen Jean. Those little ones are a pain.
21:54:20 [BetsyAnn] Good night snickerdoo!
21:54:21 [Jutta] Good night LGC!
21:54:23 [Tagrel] They have a room for the trash.
21:54:28 [DisneyPam] g'nite LGC
21:54:29 [Tagrel] goodnight LGC
21:54:31 [Joe] Nite snickerdoo!
21:54:42 [Jutta] Nite snickerdoo!!
21:54:43 [DisneyPam] That would be great, Linda. Take care
21:54:43 [Joe] Nite LGC
21:54:49 [snickerdoo] nite all!
21:54:54 [Tagrel] OK, was LGC the only non DVCer?
21:54:55 [JeanC] Nite, all!
21:54:59 [Tagrel] night Linda
21:55:12 [Joe] Nite Jean
21:55:24 [Jutta] taking trash out is our kid´s job when staying at a Studio ;-)
21:55:26 [BetsyAnn] * BetsyAnn raises her hand
21:55:32 [Joe] I think so Tag.
21:55:38 [DisneyPam] LOL, Jutta.
21:55:39 [Tagrel] Thanks everyone. Glad LGC had questions!
21:55:46 [Joe] But then again, I could be wrong.
21:55:54 [Tagrel] Duh, silly me BA!
21:56:03 [Joe] BetsyAnn had great ones too.
21:56:04 [Tagrel] You just FEEL like a DVCer!
21:56:07 [BetsyAnn] ROFLOL, Joe -- are timing is off tonight
21:56:13 [Jutta] has anyone ever used points outside Disney?
21:56:23 [DisneyPam] Do all members like to talk to people about the benefits of DVC or just us?
21:56:29 [Tagrel] Not yet Jutta.
21:57:07 [Joe] I think we all like to talk to folks about it Pam, sharing what we found is really fun.
21:57:13 [Tagrel] I think a lot of members like to talk about DVC if the DIS board is any indication! So much to learn!
21:57:41 [Joe] I learn things every time I go over there Dave
21:57:42 [Jutta] we´d love to go to the West Coast one year and want to try to use points for some time there
21:57:50 [Tagrel] I can see where it is very overwhelming for a newcomer or someone just looking into buying.
21:58:14 [Tagrel] Me too Joe. Learned a couple things about Vero just today.
21:58:34 [Jutta] I am really wondering how long they go on selling points that expire in 2042
21:58:35 [DisneyPam] Thats the cool thing about having a good guide...they're great about explaining it and making it not so overwhelming.
21:58:45 [Tagrel] We want to try Disneyland some time too. Wouldn't it be great if they added a DVC in CA?
21:59:02 [Joe] There really is a ton of information to digest about the DVC when you are first starting the ownership journey. Thank hevean the guides are really patient. At least ours was.
21:59:10 [Jutta] that would be too cool Tagrel
21:59:33 [Joe] I have heard that discussed Tagrel, just not a hard plan yet.
21:59:40 [Tagrel] That and a monorail DVC. Those would be great!
22:00:02 [Tagrel] They used to own land for a CA DVC, but sold it!
22:00:18 [Joe]
22:00:28 [DisneyPam] I think I kind of surprised my guide when I bought. I don't think he expected me to. But I wasn't doing the tour unless I knew I was going to buy.
22:00:41 [Joe] As for a monorail DVC, if they extend out to AK.....
22:00:43 [Tagrel] I think it was Marriot that bought it and built a big Timeshare.
22:00:54 [Jutta] when do they start selling the new resort?
22:01:10 [Tagrel] I can see a DVC at AK... That would be nice.
22:01:32 [Tagrel] I'll bet they start pre-sales when BCV sells out.
22:01:36 [Joe] Ok folks, time for me to scoot. 4 comes early to these old bones....
22:01:55 [Tagrel] I've read rumors of $88 - $90 per point.
22:01:57 [DisneyPam] g'nite Joe...take it easy.
22:02:04 [Jutta] it´s already 4 here Joe.....LOL
22:02:04 [BetsyAnn] Have a good night Joe -- sleep well!
22:02:13 [Joe] They're still pushing the BWV inventory, aren't they?
22:02:17 [Tagrel] Night Joe, thanks so much for being here tonight!
22:02:20 [Jutta] Good night Joe
22:02:43 [Tagrel] They are selling the DVC office space at BWV I believe
22:03:14 [Jutta] they are almost up to the point that the cost per point is double than what we paied for our first points in 1993
22:03:28 [Tagrel] Rub it in Jutta!
22:03:35 [Jutta] you´re right Tagrel, that´s what I also have heard
22:03:42 [Tagrel] I wanted to buy in 1998, but DW wouldn't go for it back then
22:03:56 [Tagrel] I just LOVED OKW
22:04:16 [DisneyPam] I wish I had bought early enough to get BWV. I love VWL's atmosphere but I adore BWV location.
22:04:23 [Jutta] DH wanted to buy in 1992 when he took the tour alone......but I didn´t want it that time....
22:04:32 [DisneyPam] OKW is awesome too. I love the airy feel. And the high beds.
22:04:48 [Tagrel] You could do an add on at BWV and sell VWL to Cheri!
22:04:52 [Jutta] OKW is my very favourite
22:05:15 [Jutta] and it´s the easiest to get ...... at least that´s what it always was for us
22:05:40 [Tagrel] I love the look of OKW, but I like the location of the other resorts. So I think they are all great - just for different reasons!
22:06:04 [DisneyPam] Tagrel - I told Cheri that if she wasn't able to get a resale at VWL but could get BWV when she is ready to buy, we could discuss a trade, lol.
22:06:18 [Jutta] that´s right Tagrel.....that´s why we added on at almost all locations .... LOL
22:06:38 [DisneyPam] How many points do y'all have, Jutta?
22:06:45 [Tagrel] We are trying Vero. Do I see more points in our future...
22:06:50 [Jutta] 520 ..........
22:07:00 [Tagrel] WOW!
22:07:12 [Tagrel] I'm way jealous. Of the points - not the dues!
22:07:48 [Jutta] LOL......
22:07:59 [DisneyPam] Thats a lot of points!!!
22:08:23 [Tagrel] Do you come over once a year?
22:08:29 [Jutta] I think that´s the most we can afford in dues........although the new resort looks very tempting......
22:08:58 [Tagrel] see!!! Its a sickness, I tell ya!!
22:09:07 [Jutta] we did since we have points, sometimes even 2 times, one trip with kids, one without ........ like next Feb
22:09:32 [Jutta] and our trips are at least 3 weeks
22:09:33 [BetsyAnn] I love watching you all talk about DVC -- you're all so excited about it -- way cool!
22:09:39 [Jutta] mostly 4
22:09:46 [Tagrel] That must be pretty pricey, even with DVC. I'd love to visit Europe some day.
22:10:12 [Jutta] BA for us it was the best investment for vacationing
22:10:17 [Tagrel] Amazing that people could all spend THAT much money and be GLAD about it, isn't it BA?
22:10:31 [Jutta] pay for that kind of accomodation every trip
22:10:40 [BetsyAnn] lol
22:11:03 [Tagrel] True Jutta.
22:11:08 [Jutta] we could never afford
22:11:13 [DisneyPam] I love the flexibility of it and all things considered, the reasonable prices.
22:11:39 [Tagrel] I'm paying amazingly little for two weeks this year. Rooms paid for with points. APs from last year. gotta love that!
22:11:59 [Jutta] and it´s a good thing that we could use the points over here if we´d not be able to go to the US one year...they wouldn´t expire for us
22:12:24 [Tagrel] True. Ever been to Disneyland Paris or Tokyo?
22:12:56 [Jutta] right Pam, the flexibility is the biggest PLUS ..... we never thought about buying a timeshare with a special week
22:13:12 [DisneyPam] kids, I need to go. Take care everyone.
22:13:25 [Tagrel] night pam
22:13:30 [BetsyAnn] Good night Pam
22:13:33 [Jutta] never, Tagrel, just once to DL, but that was in 1986
22:13:46 [Tagrel] I would hate to be locked to a specific week. I love the points system.
22:14:06 [Jutta] ups, she disappeared too fast for a good bye
22:14:07 [Tagrel] I would love to see DisneySea someday.
22:14:15 [Tagrel] I missed her too!
22:14:37 [Jutta] our school holidays vary from year to year....a special week would never work for us
22:14:42 [BetsyAnn] Me, too Tagrel! -- I think DisneySea sounds great!
22:14:57 [Tagrel] I should probably run myself! thanks for the fun chat Jutta, and thanks for the help BA!
22:15:02 [Jutta] Tokio is my "far away dream" too
22:15:10 [Tagrel] and chating with you was fun to BA!
22:15:28 [Jutta] Thank you too Tagrel! Good night
22:15:29 [BetsyAnn] Your welcome - have a good night
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