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21:05:46 [MissBianca] Hi!
21:06:38 [MissBianca] * looks around *
21:06:43 [BetsyAnn] Hey MissB!
21:06:46 [MissBianca] * looks under the desk *
21:06:51 [MissBianca] there she is!
21:06:58 [BetsyAnn] changing colors
21:07:09 [MissBianca] Ok
21:07:27 [BetsyAnn] How are doing you tonight?
21:07:29 [MissBianca] I want to know all about Disneyland
21:07:34 [MissBianca] I'm fine
21:07:37 [MissBianca] and you?
21:08:02 [BetsyAnn] I am doing great - and I will tell you everything I know and love about Disneyland
21:08:41 [MissBianca] yay!
21:09:26 [BetsyAnn] Let's wait a minute or two and see if anyone else wanders in
21:09:40 [MissBianca] yes
21:09:41 [BetsyAnn] Then we can start -- have you ever been to DL?
21:09:46 [MissBianca] I wonder why it's so quiet tonight
21:09:51 [MissBianca] nope
21:10:00 [MissBianca] even though I'm a lot closer to it than WDW
21:10:32 [BetsyAnn] Well, 2005 is the year to go - 50th anniversary and all!
21:10:53 [MissBianca] yes, hard to believe
21:11:05 [BetsyAnn] I think there are a ton of TV shows on tonight that people don't want to miss
21:11:13 [MissBianca] or maybe not, since DL and are almost exactly the same age
21:11:22 [MissBianca] TV? pfff
21:11:36 [MissBianca] When exactly did it open?
21:11:37 [EJ4Disney] Hello all
21:11:45 [BetsyAnn] July 17, 1955
21:11:50 [BetsyAnn] Hey Ellen!
21:11:51 [MissBianca] ah okay
21:11:55 [MissBianca] Ellen!
21:12:00 [MissBianca] Delightful to see you
21:12:14 [MissBianca] So WDW is 3 months older than I am
21:12:16 [EJ4Disney] thanks MissB
21:12:36 [BetsyAnn] DL? Miss B
21:12:41 [MissBianca] I'm still holding my breath for Jay--no change I hope?
21:12:47 [MissBianca] right
21:12:48 [MissBianca] DL
21:12:51 [EJ4Disney] Hi BetsyAnn so good to see you both
21:13:00 [MissBianca] I need to reset my brain *thwaks head*
21:13:27 [EJ4Disney] No -----nothing yet but with the news tonight we are really holding our breath
21:13:40 [MissBianca] what news is that?
21:13:42 [BetsyAnn] Ellen we are just chatting a bit then thinking about DL
21:13:44 [MissBianca] I missed something again!
21:13:53 [BetsyAnn] Anything new from your post this morning?
21:14:16 [EJ4Disney] 10,000 to 20,000 troops needed and will be extended
21:14:21 [MissBianca] oh NOOOOOO
21:14:27 [MissBianca] 
21:14:49 [BetsyAnn] Not loving that at all
21:15:07 [EJ4Disney] if he is extended the 3 months he will miss the birth of the baby
21:15:10 [BetsyAnn] Hey MikeS!
21:15:26 [EJ4Disney] He just has to come home!!!
21:15:35 [MissBianca] yes!
21:15:40 [EJ4Disney] Hi Mike how are you tonight?
21:15:41 [MikeS] Just noticed...scrolls from the top.
21:15:44 [MissBianca] stepping up the safe travel pixie dust!
21:16:00 [BetsyAnn] Fingers crossed, prayers sent, Ellen
21:16:06 [BetsyAnn] and candle lit
21:16:06 [MikeS] Ahhh. That's my color.
21:16:07 [EJ4Disney] I have been to DL three times
21:16:16 [EJ4Disney] thanks
21:16:21 [MissBianca] a little lighter than usual, Mike, you need more sun
21:16:23 [MikeS] Hi Ellen...i'm great tonite.
21:16:37 [DisneyPam] hi kids. 
21:16:41 [MikeS] How's this shade?
21:16:43 [EJ4Disney] you have no idea how much that means to me----thank you so very much
21:16:52 [MissBianca] Nice and bronze, Mike, it's you
21:16:55 [EJ4Disney] Hey DP
21:17:08 [BetsyAnn] Hey Pam
21:17:13 [BetsyAnn] Nice color Mike
21:17:30 [BetsyAnn] Should we start talking about Disneyland
21:17:39 [EJ4Disney] yes let's
21:17:52 [BetsyAnn] and I know no one knows that DL is my favorite park :0
21:17:55 [MissBianca] I'm up for it! Am I the only DL virgin here?
21:18:09 [BetsyAnn] So who has been to L?
21:18:12 [BetsyAnn] DL
21:18:20 [MikeS] I'm virginal too.
21:18:29 [BetsyAnn] geez - bading typing tonight -- sorry
21:18:56 [BetsyAnn] Pam have you been to DL?
21:19:03 [EJ4Disney] I was there last year with Rosie on my return from Australia. I had a ball
21:19:04 [DisneyPam] * DisneyPam has never been to DL
21:19:16 [BetsyAnn] Mike - I didn't remember that you have not been to DL
21:19:38 [MikeS] I get that a lot BA!
21:19:40 [BetsyAnn] I did a little trip last summer to DL -- I just love that place
21:19:52 [MissBianca] What makes it so special, BA?
21:20:05 [BetsyAnn] SO Ellen - what is your favorite thing about DL?
21:20:16 [BetsyAnn] Great question, MissB
21:20:57 [MissBianca] you've been bouncing for DL this year so much that you've got me getting the itch
21:21:11 [EJ4Disney] the Matterhorn---it was my first ride as a little girl and I still love it
21:21:28 [BetsyAnn] I love the feel of the place, all of my childhood memories about Disney are there, DL has a different feel to me than the MK
21:21:46 [BetsyAnn] Matterhorn - great ride!
21:21:51 [MissBianca] How old were you when you first went?
21:21:54 [MikeS] BA...is Pirates that much different in DL than in WDW?
21:22:15 [EJ4Disney] I was 10 years old
21:22:39 [MissBianca] a perfect age, Ellen 
21:22:41 [BetsyAnn] Pirates is so different -- there are two huge drops, Pirates houses the best resturant at DL, the beginning of the ride is so peaceful
21:22:42 [EJ4Disney] I also love It's a Small World better at DL
21:22:52 [BetsyAnn] Great age to go Ellen
21:23:07 [MissBianca] huge drops???
21:23:11 [BetsyAnn] I agree Ellen - what do love about Small World
21:23:16 [MissBianca] not Splash Mountain huge?
21:24:09 [EJ4Disney] I love the outside entrance and the whole water feel. I remember when it was the best and most sought after E ticket
21:24:26 [BetsyAnn] Let me tell you this story -- the first time we rode PoC at DL - my brother must have been about 5 or 6 -- none of us had ridden it before- had no clue what it would be like -- we sat in the front of the boat
21:24:40 [MikeS] Ellen and BetsyAnn...what do you think is better at TMK as compared to DL?
21:25:03 [BetsyAnn] as we went down the 2nd drop - he hid in the front of the boat
21:25:06 [MissBianca] ok
21:25:11 [MissBianca] oh no
21:25:30 [BetsyAnn] I agree Ellen - we always made sure we had 2 e-tickets to be able to ride twice
21:25:45 [BetsyAnn] Honestly, Mike - nothing
21:26:09 [EJ4Disney] how cute BetsyAnn
21:26:13 [BetsyAnn] We still laugh about this -- it is one of my brother's favorite Disney stories
21:26:22 [MikeS] I guess the one thing we can say is that there is a definite size difference.
21:27:04 [BetsyAnn] Yes TMK is larger and for me that is not a good thing -- I love the flow of DL and I think it's size makes that better
21:27:09 [EJ4Disney] I would have to say I Love the castle at WDW better. I love it at DL but there is something about WDW thatjust makes me cry everytime I see it
21:28:01 [BetsyAnn] There are large stretches of nothing at TMK with no attractions or few attractions -- lots of walking
21:28:19 [MissBianca] gee, and it seems crowded compared to some of the newer parks
21:28:32 [MissBianca] how's the shopping at DL?
21:28:55 [MikeS] I just thought of a question...how do the fireworks displays compare?
21:28:57 [BetsyAnn] The castle at DL is not focus - it is the Matterhorn -- the castle at MK is huge and the focal point
21:29:18 [BetsyAnn] The shopping is good at DL and now with DD it is getting better
21:29:32 [EJ4Disney] so true BetsyAnn
21:29:45 [BetsyAnn] I think the new show at MK is very similar to Believe which started about 3 years ago.
21:30:47 [MikeS] Does DL have similar Christmas events as does WDW? I know they have the Candlelight Processional...do they also have MVMCP?
21:31:42 [BetsyAnn] We only went to DL once at Christmas time and that was on Christmas day - can you say Wall to Wall people - loved it - but really unsure about what they do beyond decorating
21:33:05 [BetsyAnn] I like Mouseplant.com for Disneyland news and information
21:33:13 [MissBianca] Are there any more "Walt" parts at DL?
21:33:24 [BetsyAnn] Mouseplanet.com - sorry misspelled that
21:33:53 [BetsyAnn] I think so MissB --
21:34:13 [MissBianca] Oh good, I was visualizng a houseplant with ears...
21:34:25 [MikeS] The staffers at MP are close by DL...they attend the media events at DL...and have lots of contacts.
21:35:03 [BetsyAnn] Walt brought things to DL from the world's fair - which make them very special
21:35:16 [MissBianca] true
21:35:18 [BetsyAnn] http://www.mouseplanet.com/parkupdates/dlr/dlr040412.htm
21:35:21 [MissBianca] I remember seeing about them on TV
21:35:23 [MikeS] Actually...a few years back MP wqas unbalanced....lots of DL stuff but not enough WDW stuff.
21:35:33 [MissBianca] when we first had a TV
21:35:58 [BetsyAnn] And Walt's eye for detail is captured better at Dl IMHO
21:36:26 [BetsyAnn] For example: Small world like Ellen mentioned
21:37:05 [EJ4Disney] all in all what we all are saying is that DL is exactly as remember it on Sunday nights. LOL
21:37:11 [MissBianca] what is the miniature village thing there?
21:37:23 [MissBianca] right!
21:37:32 [EJ4Disney] that is when I fell in love with DL
21:37:37 [DisneyPam] sorry...phone
21:37:54 [MikeS] BA...there is no doubt that the spirit of Walt is in DL and not at WDW.
21:37:57 [DisneyPam] back now....
21:38:06 [MissBianca] despite those rumors...
21:38:23 [BetsyAnn] I agree Ellen - There have always been changes at DL - new attraction come and go but the spirit is still there
21:38:25 [MissBianca] budging towards blue
21:39:00 [BetsyAnn] The storybook cannelboats - is that what you are talking about MissB
21:39:16 [MikeS] It is next to impossible to change things at DL as opposed to WDW...DL is very much a Disney purist's theme park.
21:39:29 [MissBianca] Yes, that's the one!
21:39:59 [MissBianca] And it has no space left, right Mike?
21:40:17 [BetsyAnn] To some degree Mike - but I still remember great changes over the years at DL - and they have all been better in my opinion when they actually replace something not just leave it empty
21:40:26 [MikeS] Right MissB
21:40:56 [MissBianca] They need Mickey's Phil at DL
21:41:18 [MikeS] They sure had a problem with 'A Moment with Mr. Lincoln"
21:41:41 [BetsyAnn] Storybook Land Canal Boats is an orginial to the park
21:42:00 [BetsyAnn] Well, Mike -they might have to remove that one over my
cold, dead body!
21:42:35 [MikeS] There ya go BA....you don't get that in WDW...makes a difference when you've had something for 50 years.
21:42:44 [EJ4Disney] I love 'A moment with Mr. Lincoln
21:42:46 [BetsyAnn] DL has it's problems today - Tomorrowland is a ghost town - a mere shadow of its former self
21:43:11 [EJ4Disney] I totally agree BetsyAnn
21:43:21 [BetsyAnn] Please share Ellen
21:44:01 [BetsyAnn] And it is Great Moments with Mr Lincoln, Mike
21:44:19 [EJ4Disney] I just love it. I have to admit tho-----I cry every time I experience it. It is a must see hands down.
21:44:20 [MikeS] Told ya I was a DL Virgin!
21:44:53 [MikeS] Hey guys how about Fantasmic...better at DL or WDW?
21:44:55 [BetsyAnn] I am with you Ellen - I remember seeing it as a child and cried then and it is a must see every trip and I cry everytime!
21:45:23 [BetsyAnn] Fantasmic is awesome at DL -- you sit on the ground and it is on the Rivers of American - WOW and WOW!
21:45:40 [MissBianca] Should they replace hall of presidents with Mr. L?
21:45:52 [MissBianca] or keep them different?
21:45:56 [MikeS] ...but isn't it crowded....at New Orleans Square....right?
21:46:08 [BetsyAnn] As Mike as been gently saying DL lovers are a little stuck in the past
21:46:47 [BetsyAnn] It gets very crowded - you have to hold a spot for an hour or more but that is part of the fun for me - like waiting for fireworks in a small town
21:47:34 [BetsyAnn] No MissB - they should not replace it with the Hall of Presidents -- Mr L is a stand alone attraction
21:47:59 [MissBianca] Oh no, not WITH Hall of Presidents
21:48:03 [MissBianca] the other way around!
21:48:15 [BetsyAnn] And one of the best things at DL not at MK is Indian Jones Adventure
21:48:15 [MissBianca] Replace HOP?
21:48:32 [BetsyAnn] Oh - I see
21:48:40 [EJ4Disney] no no no they are so special in their own way
21:48:55 [MissBianca] okay, different it is
21:49:29 [BetsyAnn] Ummm - I am not sure - It proably would not work to replace the hall of presidents with Mr L - Mr L is very small attraction - it feels more intimate that HoP
21:49:52 [MissBianca] Okay
21:50:14 [MissBianca] I actually love HoP, but so many think it's a zzzz
21:50:29 [EJ4Disney] Miss B, Mr. Lincoln is a small but such a neat attraction on Main street and HOP is an attraction in its self
21:50:31 [MissBianca] I'm sure MrL would give me a huge lump in my throat
21:50:33 [BetsyAnn] You just need to come to DL MissB
21:50:44 [MissBianca] Oh, it's very different then!
21:50:46 [MissBianca] Yes!
21:51:01 [MissBianca] And fly only 3 hours instead of 7
21:51:18 [BetsyAnn] DL still has Mr Toad
21:51:36 [BetsyAnn] the original Enchanted Tiki Room
21:52:14 [BetsyAnn] and Alice in Wonderland - a great Fantasyland attraction
21:52:34 [BetsyAnn] I am talking a lot tonight - sorry! I just love DL
21:53:13 [MissBianca] please bubble for us, BA, we love your enthusiasm
21:53:21 [BetsyAnn] Roger Rabbit Car Spin - a loud and crazy attraction
21:53:32 [MissBianca] Is it like Buzz?
21:53:51 [BetsyAnn] It is a little like buzz
21:54:17 [BetsyAnn] Now rumor has it there is a second park at Disneyland
Resort
21:54:19 [EJ4Disney] BetsyAnn you are doing just great and thanks
21:54:23 [MissBianca] Roger Rabbit and company are so silly though
21:54:52 [MissBianca] I want to hear about Soaring over CA and Grizzly Mtn
21:55:21 [BetsyAnn] Should we wander over there
21:55:39 [MissBianca] depends, is it far ;-)
21:55:55 [BetsyAnn] No just a few steps from the main entrance
21:56:11 [BetsyAnn] That is a big difference you walk between parks in a minute or two
21:56:28 [BetsyAnn] Now I warn you California Adventure is my least favorite Disney park!
21:56:40 [MissBianca] least?
21:56:54 [EJ4Disney] please tell us why
21:57:04 [MissBianca] even with the new stuff they're adding?
21:57:21 [MikeS] BA....I have heqard that DCA was not welcomed warmly by the DL veterans.
21:57:25 [BetsyAnn] but it does have some great attractions - Soaring over California, California Screamin, Sun Wheell
21:58:10 [BetsyAnn] I am a DL veteran as Mike calls us - the park is way too much like a Six Flags park -- too many attractions are simply rides
21:58:32 [MissBianca] Ah, yes, that makes sense
21:58:52 [MissBianca] A lot of the things they opened in that time period are "just rides" at WDW too
21:58:57 [BetsyAnn] There is no shade, not very much land scaping, and a whole lot of asphault
21:59:15 [MissBianca] like a lot of SoCal
21:59:15 [BetsyAnn] Good point MissB!
21:59:30 [MissBianca] I think they forgot to make up the stories
21:59:40 [BetsyAnn] I love the Hollwodd picture backlot - that is where they are putting TOT
22:00:16 [BetsyAnn] I spent about 5 hours there the first time and was so disappointed I started to cry!
22:00:36 [MissBianca] * MissBianca hugs BA
22:00:41 [BetsyAnn] The park was so not Disney, had no Walt in it
22:01:27 [MissBianca] very sad
22:01:28 [BetsyAnn] Now it was my $0th B-day trip and I only spent that time for 4 days at CA -- I would not even go back to see Electrical Parade, my favorite parade!
22:01:33 [BetsyAnn] 40th
22:01:42 [MissBianca] it cost a lot of mney
22:01:59 [MissBianca] DCA
22:02:06 [BetsyAnn] I did go back last year and did a full day at CA and found a way to stay happy and active there
22:02:17 [MissBianca] whew
22:02:24 [MissBianca] it has some pretty parts
22:02:29 [MissBianca] but the idea is weird
22:02:54 [BetsyAnn] Now Barb D has a great thread in the Disneyland board about CA and attractions
22:03:57 [BetsyAnn] Well the clock says time is about up
22:04:03 [BetsyAnn] Any questions
22:04:16 [BetsyAnn] and can I sign you all up for a DL trip in 2005?
22:04:30 [MissBianca] when's your trip?
22:04:55 [MikeS] It's so far away!
22:05:19 [EJ4Disney] BetsyAnn you really did a great chat tonight. I am ready for a trip to DL----Let's go!!!
22:05:40 [EJ4Disney] Leaving for WDW in just 47 days
22:05:42 [BetsyAnn] LG and I are planning in June I will make atleast one other trip if not two there
22:05:58 [BetsyAnn] What is so far away Mike? DL or 2005
22:06:28 [MikeS] DL....3000 miles from me
22:06:32 [BetsyAnn] The time will just fly by until you are there, Ellen
22:06:46 [MissBianca] WDW 3600 miles from me and your point is?
22:07:07 [BetsyAnn] Well, if you start walking right now Mike - you might
just make it and I here they have these new things they call
airplanes!
22:07:25 [MikeS] Leaving for WDW in 7 days
22:07:34 [MissBianca] oooooo
22:07:47 [BetsyAnn] And we are very excited about that trip Mike!
22:08:00 [EJ4Disney] night all, have a great tomorrow
22:08:02 [MissBianca] yes, Mike, we can't wait for the reports
22:08:09 [MissBianca] Good night Ellen!
22:08:18 [MissBianca] We'll pull for Jay!
22:08:22 [EJ4Disney] ase keep Jay in your prayers, I would really appreciate it.
22:08:46 [MikeS] I'm excited too.
22:08:58 [EJ4Disney] please
22:09:02 [BetsyAnn] Good night Ellen!
22:09:06 [MikeS] Good night Ellen.
22:09:06 [MissBianca] to go where no fan has gone before
22:09:14 [BetsyAnn] Got that covered too
22:09:22 [MikeS] Maybe MissB
22:09:23 [MissBianca] will do, Ellen
22:09:33 [MissBianca] still don't know?
22:09:41 [MissBianca] do you have any fingernails left?
22:10:31 [MikeS] No word but we all decided to go...we may hear from them next week.....why take the chance and decide now not to go to only find out that they were going to tell us next week?
22:10:42 [BetsyAnn] Thanks everyone for coming! You all were just wonderful letting me talk about my home
22:10:56 [MissBianca] it was fun BA!
22:10:56 [MikeS] Besides...there are other things going on
22:10:58 [BetsyAnn] Have a good night and a great tomorrow!
22:11:01 [MissBianca] oooo!
22:11:06 [MikeS] Sure thin BA!
22:11:19 [MissBianca] And dinner just got here!
22:11:19 [MikeS] Erh...sure thing BA!
22:11:22 [MissBianca] good timing!
22:11:32 [MissBianca] Disney Dreams, all!
22:12:04 [MikeS] Nighty nite
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